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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Hallowed Be Thy Name on Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:44 pm

A Christian cult is a type of religion that has branched off of Christianity.

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Toz76 on Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:53 pm

That would just be a branch of Christianity. In fact, Protestantism branched off from Catholicism, so by your own logic, you're part of a "cult".

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Hallowed Be Thy Name on Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:17 am

I guess I phrased it wrong..

More personal question now: If one day, you're at, say, school, and all of a sudden, a bunch of people suddenly disappear, leaving only their clothes behind, what would you do?

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Toz76 on Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:34 am

Well, that's kind of impossible...

But if that did happen, I'd find the people who were left and try to determine the cause.

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Hallowed Be Thy Name on Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:36 pm

Well, considering that that's what's been foretold in Revelation as the 'Rapture', you wouldn't just realize that it had happened?

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Toz76 on Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:02 pm

I wouldn't automatically assume that, no. For one thing, I don't believe in it, and for another, you'd be surprised where technology can take us, and for yet another, many theologians now believe the last chapter/book/whatever the heck it's called of the Bible refers to the reign of the Roman Emperor Nero, some 2000 years ago.

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Hallowed Be Thy Name on Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:34 pm

You'd consider it a possibility, though, right?

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Toz76 on Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:41 pm

Probably, but the odds of it happening anyway are astronomically low.

There's some issues I have with religion in general: why are gods so egotistical that they demand constant worship? Why do they never show themselves? Why'd they even bother making us in the first place?

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Hallowed Be Thy Name on Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:55 pm

They're NOT egotistical. They really aren't. God doesn't DEMAND constant worship; he just wants our hearts. We have a choice to either accept or not accept. I am not constantly worshiping, but I do worship Him.

Why does God never show Himself? Because no mortal man can look at God and live.

God made us because he wanted someones to love, communicate with, and the like. It was just Him before Creation; wouldn't you say that that sounds pretty boring?

Now, if you had made something from scratch, and put life into it, and loved it, wouldn't you want it to love you back?

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Toz76 on Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:38 am

1) And yet he has this big book of rules he expects you to obey, and if not- surprise! Eternal suffering. You're welcome.
2) But didn't he speak to Moses and Noah and Adam... if he wants people to worship him, it'd go a long way to actually talk to us every so often.
3) If he made us to communicate with us, where the devil is he? I'm always available for a chat, on the off-chance you exist!
4) Well, yes, but I wouldn't demand it. I respect their free will, and I wouldn't force them to love me. I also wouldn't promise world peace and defeat of evil sometime in the future, I'd do that right away! And I wouldn't have a bunch of arbitrary rules either.

As a friend of mine once said:
"Why can't there be a religion that's just 'God loves you. The end.'"

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Hallowed Be Thy Name on Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:53 am

@Toz76 wrote:1) And yet he has this big book of rules he expects you to obey, and if not- surprise! Eternal suffering. You're welcome.
He does not. Because Jesus died on the cross, we are exempt from following these rules, even the Ten Commandments. While they are good to follow, some of them - like what you shouldn't eat - are now pointless. The only way you'd get eternal suffering is if you don't accept Jesus as your Savior.
2) But didn't he speak to Moses and Noah and Adam... if he wants people to worship him, it'd go a long way to actually talk to us every so often.
Yes, he SPOKE to them, but they didn't actually see him. And some do actually hear God.
3) If he made us to communicate with us, where the devil is he? I'm always available for a chat, on the off-chance you exist!
Guess what? He's right there. How do you communicate with Him? Prayer.
4) Well, yes, but I wouldn't demand it. I respect their free will, and I wouldn't force them to love me. I also wouldn't promise world peace and defeat of evil sometime in the future, I'd do that right away! And I wouldn't have a bunch of arbitrary rules either.
God does not demand it. Allah does, but not God. God gives us a free choice, and if we accept Him or if we don't, it's up to us. Also, when God gets rid of all the evil in the world, it will mean that there will be nothing new created besides a new Heaven and a new Earth. Thus, if he'd gotten rid of the evil way back when, you and I wouldn't be here. And as I said earlier, we don't need to follow those rules.

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Toz76 on Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:04 am

1) I'm confused. What did Jesus save me from? The ridiculous rules of the Old Testament? And requiring that you believe in him or eternal hell is exactly what you keep accusing Islam of!
2) Can they prove it, though?
3) If I pray to him right now, will be respond? Verbally?
4) New stuff is evil? God and I disagree there. Also, you do realize Allah is God, right? Just with a slightly expanded belief system. The name Allah is in fact just the Hebrew name, Muslims that speak English call him God.

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Hallowed Be Thy Name on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:37 am

@Toz76 wrote:1) I'm confused. What did Jesus save me from? The ridiculous rules of the Old Testament? And requiring that you believe in him or eternal hell is exactly what you keep accusing Islam of!
I do not. I accuse them of enforcing their religion.
Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sins.
2) Can they prove it, though?
You're right there; they can't. However, there have been times when people are dead, and then miraculously come back to life. I suggest you read 90 Minutes in Heaven.
3) If I pray to him right now, will be respond? Verbally?
Not verbally. God speaks in mysterious ways. You'll be able to tell it's him if he does.
4) New stuff is evil? God and I disagree there. Also, you do realize Allah is God, right? Just with a slightly expanded belief system. The name Allah is in fact just the Hebrew name, Muslims that speak English call him God.
I never said that God thinks that new stuff is evil. Where'd you come up with that?
And yes, I know about Allah.

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Re: Religious Debate

Post by Toz76 on Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:58 pm

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